The "How many different PLL clones can we get!" Thread

Bellyheart · Post by **Bellyheart** » Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:56 pm

Put me on the list

goroth · Post by **goroth** » Fri Jun 20, 2014 9:03 pm

Bellyheart wrote:Put me on the list

Me too!

intothegroove · Post by **intothegroove** » Fri Aug 08, 2014 10:28 pm

This took a long time but I finally finished my PLL monster :animal:

I recorded a little demo, it sucks but it's better than nothing lol This is just showing a little of the PLL side, I put extremely high quality components throughout and a few big mods on the original Schumann circuit and component changes. This can run in series or parallel with the fuzz just like the extra momentary footswitch but has it's own controls like gain, trigger, waveshape for the synth voices. I upgraded the loopspeed switch to a rotary to get from completely scrambled to a 20 minute siren! lol I managed to get it to have very tight and long sustaining harmonies and also be even more whacked out from the original. It's a serious noise generator as well!

In the V2 of the Schumann there was a CON switch which I found really didn't do much. When my friend Kevin at KO Amps traced the unit he found that it was a simple high frequency cut switch, a cap to ground so I toyed around with that and found that increasing this cap to a big amount gave it an extreme gate! which is really useful for short bursts of the synth voices! SO MUCH FUN! :excellent:

It is the switch at the top left corner of my pedal.

I am going to be doing other demos of the fuzz side of this pedal because it is essentially the prototype to my upgraded Squarewave Generator pedal, sorry for the shitty sound and demo, enjoy! :joy:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEKAB3IVlm4[/youtube]

intothegroove · Post by **intothegroove** » Fri Aug 08, 2014 10:32 pm

Bellyheart · Post by **Bellyheart** » Fri Aug 08, 2014 10:46 pm

that thing is fucked

LaoWiz · Post by **LaoWiz** » Fri Aug 08, 2014 10:57 pm

Sounds fucking excellent!

Gone Fission · Post by **Gone Fission** » Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:24 pm

Caught wind of this basic PLL fuzz project this week: http://parasitstudio.weebly.com/buildin ... chaos-fuzz
Sounds good, if not all the bells and whistles, and easy vero layout provided.

LaoWiz · Post by **LaoWiz** » Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:59 pm

Gone Fission wrote:Caught wind of this basic PLL fuzz project this week: http://parasitstudio.weebly.com/buildin ... chaos-fuzz
Sounds good, if not all the bells and whistles, and easy vero layout provided.

That thing sounds great. Saw that last week. Definitely keep in mind that what makes the Schumann PLL interesting is the harmonies set by the multiplier and divider. There's a crude schematic that I made a circuit for years ago from Nicholas Collin's book Hardware Hacking, which features a PLL chip. You can get the bleeps and sirens from this but not the spaceship octaves like in intothegrooves vid which is stellar!

intothegroove · Post by **intothegroove** » Sat Aug 09, 2014 1:14 pm

LaoWiz wrote:
Gone Fission wrote:Caught wind of this basic PLL fuzz project this week: http://parasitstudio.weebly.com/buildin ... chaos-fuzz
Sounds good, if not all the bells and whistles, and easy vero layout provided.

That thing sounds great. Saw that last week. Definitely keep in mind that what makes the Schumann PLL interesting is the harmonies set by the multiplier and divider. There's a crude schematic that I made a circuit for years ago from Nicholas Collin's book Hardware Hacking, which features a PLL chip. You can get the bleeps and sirens from this but not the spaceship octaves like in intothegrooves vid which is stellar!

Thanks! I really like that little pedal there! Great idea and the schematic doesn't look to difficult to build. Crazy sounds to be had with that 4046! There are honestly endless sounds when you get messing with that chip :excellent:

excane · Post by **excane** » Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:27 am

So.. uhh... who's getting this?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Schumann-Electr ... 20ea45858e

Wes Mantooth · Post by **Wes Mantooth** » Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:37 am

excane wrote:So.. uhh... who's getting this?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Schumann-Electr ... 20ea45858e

Uncle Grandfather I'm sure

bodyisajerk · Post by **bodyisajerk** » Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:11 pm

intothegroove, that is amazing!!!

Seizurema · Post by **Seizurema** » Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:43 am

What is the clone of choice that's currently in production ?

I'm seeking a PLL .

Bellyheart · Post by **Bellyheart** » Thu Oct 23, 2014 7:22 am

Vero layouts. Is anyone actually selling one?

The squnkworks one only comes when an auction for charity pops up. Dimehead maybe....? That one is supposedly tame compared to the proper circuit.

All this thread did is get some vero layouts and promises for the future. I'd go with the vero if to can...I also have a bunch of the pcbs. I should build them.

digi2t · Post by **digi2t** » Thu Oct 23, 2014 7:57 pm

I recently built a PCB PLL for someone, as part of a trade deal. Vero, or PCB, they both perform very well. I just wrapped up a repair/mod on an original PLL (#12), and my vero A/B'd very well compared to it. Tweaking the opposing voltages can really make a difference to the overall sound.

I know the vero is a chore to build, but if you don't have a PCB, well worthwhile.

Unfortunately, I just don't have the time (or incentive) to build them. The one I recently built was a mighty exception, giving this;

in exchange for this;

Like I said, incentive. :thumb:

Just got my last missing piece (switch) for the Two Face fuzz. Build report, and video coming in the next few days. It's what a Fuzz Factory aspires to be when it grows up. :rock:

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