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Re: Reverberators, Noise, and Trouble-shooting...

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:10 pm
by Ryan
Does the CCv3 hum with the Jr? I'd expect it to since it needs 125mA.. I think that's why the RRR hums with it, not enough current...

Re: Reverberators, Noise, and Trouble-shooting...

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:13 pm
by bronzetalon
The RRR hums when on when the CCv3 is in the chain but all pedals work.

Re: Reverberators, Noise, and Trouble-shooting...

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:20 pm
by Ryan
Geez RRRs are touchy! Still surprised the Jr. can handle the Cosmi too... I'll let you know if the Isolator Adapter works!

Re: Reverberators, Noise, and Trouble-shooting...

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 6:53 am
by myrrh
Yes tell us when that arrives, Im curious about that one. For now I just use a different adapter for the Reverberator.

Re: Reverberators, Noise, and Trouble-shooting...

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:15 am
by yallerhon
No hum or hiss with either my RRR or CCv3 off my Fuel Tank Jr. :)

Re: Reverberators, Noise, and Trouble-shooting...

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:48 am
by jmoote
Just got an RRR for the first time. I plugged it in using a strymon power supply that comes with the Timeline, Mobius, etc. which is supposed to be 1000 mA. It works great with other pedals but it does seem cheap compared to something like a OneSpot.

Anyway, lots of noise with the RRR (and a bit of noise if I use it with the Cosmichorus). The Cosmichorus is silent on a PP2+ so I suspect when I get time to plug the RRR into that as well it will be fine.

Re: Reverberators, Noise, and Trouble-shooting...

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:33 pm
by Ryan
yallerhon wrote:No hum or hiss with either my RRR or CCv3 off my Fuel Tank Jr. :)


Cool! Is it a hard-click RRR?

jmoote wrote:Just got an RRR for the first time. I plugged it in using a strymon power supply that comes with the Timeline, Mobius, etc. which is supposed to be 1000 mA. It works great with other pedals but it does seem cheap compared to something like a OneSpot.

Anyway, lots of noise with the RRR (and a bit of noise if I use it with the Cosmichorus). The Cosmichorus is silent on a PP2+ so I suspect when I get time to plug the RRR into that as well it will be fine.


When a company gives you a power supply it's because it costs them basically nothing, is almost always unregulated and unfiltered, and it means that their pedal is probably internally regulated/filtered in a way that it doesn't care what you plug into it. Digital pedals that digitize the whole signal can get away with this pretty easily.

The RRR is a mix of analog and digital and the digital section is spread over 3 separate chips, not the usual one big chip that does everything, and it's picky about the power that's plugged in.

Re: Reverberators, Noise, and Trouble-shooting...

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:06 pm
by jmoote
Strymon claims an analog dry path, but yes I suspect there is tons of internal power regulation and filtering and all it really needs to see is the voltage with enough current and it can go from there.

Given my success with the Cosmichorus (and just about any other pedal) on the PP2+ I am not worried.

Re: Reverberators, Noise, and Trouble-shooting...

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:34 am
by yallerhon
Ryan wrote:
yallerhon wrote:No hum or hiss with either my RRR or CCv3 off my Fuel Tank Jr. :)


Cool! Is it a hard-click RRR?


It's a hard-click teal on-the-airberator, part of the all-Dr-Sci board I posted on your FB wall the other day :)

Re: Reverberators, Noise, and Trouble-shooting...

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 12:47 am
by oinkbanana
This thread is now of interest to me with my new Red On-The-Air-berator
I've never had any problems with my offtheAirMiniRRR (even with the new CC), so to test my new pedal I straight swapped them and the redtv was a hummer, where the offtheAirMiniRRR has never made a peep. hmm
i'm gonna run some more tests on monday after reading the details in this thread. might make it to my practice space tomorrow if time permits.

here's the board setup, with two voodoo labs ISO5 underneath.

Re: Reverberators, Noise, and Trouble-shooting...

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:28 am
by goroth
Try running it on the 400mA output - the other four outputs only have 100mA each, and that could be your trouble.

Re: Reverberators, Noise, and Trouble-shooting...

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 12:02 pm
by Holy Schnikes
I hated my Fuel Tank Chameleon. Beyond causing random hum issues with 9V pedals, the 18V setting would never work properly no matter what pedal we're talking.

CIOKS and Voodoo Labs if you're wanting an isolated multi-supply. That's what I'd suggest. :thumb:

Oh, as for the Strymon supply, I've had many issues using it with anything other than Strymon stuff tho ymmv.

Re: Reverberators, Noise, and Trouble-shooting...

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 12:31 pm
by oinkbanana
goroth wrote:Try running it on the 400mA output - the other four outputs only have 100mA each, and that could be your trouble.

the 400mA are for the eventide pedals. ;)
I'm sure between the two ISO5 i can switch things around, run the RRR with the ODB-3 on the 9v 100mA taps.
I believe right now the RRR is on the same ISO5 as the CC, Tremolessence, WIIO (18v) & modfactor.
I'm just surprised that one miniRRR doesn't perform like another. :idk:

Re: Reverberators, Noise, and Trouble-shooting...

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 6:23 pm
by Ryan
Kev, the difference is the red tv has a relay and a micro for the switching... it needs about 30mA more than the hard-clicker version and seems much more prone to humming. Double regulators, double micros.. it's a hummer...

Re: Reverberators, Noise, and Trouble-shooting...

PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:53 pm
by myrrh
Anyone tested the diago isolator yet?